Bonds in Conversation : Suffer the Snake
It looks like I have a critical audience, so I apologise if you manage find any offensive material in this one (sniff sniff).
The US is nearing the sequester deadline and the sharp spending cuts that could spiral the economy into another recession especially when most of the revenues are going to come in the form of higher taxes.
The FED just bought back another 900 mio of treasuries last night.
We have a currency war of sorts going on (watch for article on the effects on Singapore).
Meanwhile economic data has started to disappoint with GDP numbers out of US, Japan and most of Europe (= G3 =most of global GDP) highly dissatisfactory.
On a bright note, equity markets are at their highs, and pre crisis levels.
How do we make sense of this ?
It means that corporate bonds have not suffered as much as govis during this time as credit spreads have not been affected by interest rate spikes. Yet any economic slow down could bode well for bond holders as it means that the rate hikes that have been priced in to the curve could be delayed. By that, I mean the Government bond holders for an economic slowdown is bad news for equity ? and thus, corporate bonds ?
I have snakes in my head ! And I am caught in the hypnotic glaze of the Cobra. SHOULD I HEDGE OR NOT ?
Table of SGS.
*As of 14 Feb close.
Government bond prices have headed south and we are starting to see some effects on the corporate prices.
*NAJIB TO DISSOLVE MALAYSIA PARLIAMENT `VERY SOON,’ BERNAMA SAYS
Thus, Genting prices showing some DISCONNECT. SGX retail issue still trading at 101 to 102 (net of accrued interest) while the wholesale tranche is going under at around 98.00. The 2 tranches are NOT FUNGIBLE so it is not possible to buy the the wholesale tranche to sell into SGX though – pity.
Of the 2013 issues, prices appear to be holding up. Except for Unicredit ! as the Monte Paschi scandal continues to unfold, with their former head arrested yesterday with some 54 mio secreted away.
Tata Comm 4.25 02/01/16 | Feb-16 | 101 |
HDB 1.23 01/30/18 | Jan-18 | 99.55 |
Goodpack 4.75 01/30/23 | Jan-23 | 99.75 |
KimEng 1.35 01/28/14 | Jan-14 | 99.99975 |
HongFok 4 3/4 01/24/18 | Jan-18 | 100.30138 |
Guthrie 3.7 01/23/18 | Jan-18 | 100.19894 |
NUS 1.038 01/23/18 | Jan-18 | 99.54 |
Unicredit 5.5 07/30/23 | Jul-23 | 97.25 |
Biosensors 4 7/8 01/23/17 | Jan-17 | 101.40048 |
FNN 3 01/21/20 | Jan-20 | 99.998413 |
CDL 1.57 01/16/15 | Jan-15 | n/a |
ICICI 3.65 01/14/20 | Jan-20 | 99.5 |
HPL 3 1/2 01/15/18 | Jan-18 | 100.35148 |
I have nothing to suggest to bond holders right now except that I will be making my near term SGD interest rate calls based on the upcoming Budget and my forecast of the April MPS (monetary policy statement). The only thing I can do now is to write my currency war piece and perhaps make some sense of Singapore’s position.
The big picture remains that there is more downside than upside to fixed rate bond prices and risk remains on the longer tenors. Beware too, those on leverage, that funding costs may not remain low forever.
Hedge suggestions – PST US (double leverage short 7-10Y UST) or TBT US (double leverage short 20Y UST). Indirect hedges – SDS US (double leverage short S&P 500), GLD US (long Gold).
And finally, Olam prices. Don’t shoot me if they are wrong.
OLAMSP 6 3/4 01/29/18 | SGD | 94 |
OLAMSP 6 10/25/22 | SGD | 91.25 |
OLAMSP 5 3/4 09/20/17 | USD | 92.5 |
OLAMSP 2 1/2 09/06/13 | SGD | 99.25 |
OLAMSP 5.8 07/17/19 | SGD | 93.5 |
OLAMSP 7 09/29/49 | SGD | 86 |
OLAMSP 6 08/10/18 | SGD | 95 |
OLAMSP 3 02/25/13 | SGD | 99.5 |
OLAMSP 7 1/2 08/12/20 | USD | 94 |
OLAMSP 4.07 02/12/13 | SGD | MATURED !! |
Hi, your blog is an interesting read. Are you doing bond leverage as well? I am just starting out and I am wondering if it is a bad time to do leverage…
Leverage looks good as long as we assume that your short term funding rate remains stable.
So to trade off leverage, you need to have a view on short end rates, as well as the long end, in addition to your view on the credit too !
Best to get all angles covered and ask all the questions before you start.
Well, i actually realized that there are quite a few bond investors following your blog.. just to share a bit more.. i got into mapletree 5.125 at a rather high price of 103.xx i definitely concur with your view that there is much more downside bias to bond prices. Hence, I am wondering if having to wait 10 years for reset is a tad too long.. On the other hand, I would also like to do leverage and take advantage of the recent price weakness. What would you do if you were me?
I was actually intending to switch out into a 5 year reset perp.. Since I am only considering sgd perps.. GLP seems to be a good choice.. of course the credit rating will differ..
Hmm.. i am still deciding on the best course of action..
Hi Newbie,
Not licensed to give advice or recommendations.
So, just some observations for you.
Leveraging is good till the yield goes up by 1% for a 10 year paper which would roughly bring the bond price down 10 cts and you will get your margin call. That would be 2% for 5 year papers and so on.
For perps, even trickier because of the equity/subordination element.
The Mapletree 5.125% is looking like 101.50/102.50 but I see a call in 5 years at 100 which is possible given that current price is >100. The GLP perp is >103, I guess because of the coupon refix on year 5. A switch would appear to be loss making.
The Mapletree perp is unrated while the GLP is BBB-.
I view them both as quite similar credits.
Leveraging on perpetuals is a very brave thing, especially if its for keeps and not a trading position.
Good luck !
thanks for your comments! I am not sure if you are a trader. Well, my idea is to have perpetual cashflow coming in, so I am not into trading. Originally i have thought of leveraging to buy USD perps but have put off that for now. If you think of it, leveraging on perpetuals with good coupon refix is quite safe. Question to ask yourself as you have said is: Do you think your short term loan rate will ever hit or exceed your coupon rate before the refix date?
This is the question I am trying to answer.. that is why I am in a dilemma on whether to make a switch to 5 year refix perpetuals. Another option I am also considering is to switch into straight bonds.. of course that will bring about lower yield.
On a side note.. I have no idea how you manage to get such low commissions.. I am a small fish and I am charged $0.50…
Hi Newbie,
If you consider the leverage you get for high grade bonds, sometimes 80%, you will be pleasantly surprised.
However, high grade bonds are even more correlated to interest rate changes than high yielders.
It’s a choice but most importantly, to understand the risk before making a decision.
Yes, was a trader in my past life so I mostly know where the levels would be. Trouble is I don’t buy many bonds as a former occupational hazard.
50cts a bit high, imo, but then again, I know some private bank customers who tip their bankers that amount.
Good luck.